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dormouse
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04-20-00 23:46
No 108399
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MD-P2P with WITTIG ? -dreamer
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the Hive BB Novel Discourse MD-P2P with WITTIG ? profile | register | preferences | faq | search next newest topic | next oldest topic Author Topic: MD-P2P with WITTIG ? dreamer Member posted 06-20-98 05:50 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- in pihkal #94 shulgin talks about a synthesis of -(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-2-butanone with a Wittig reaction between piperonal and the derivative of triphenylphosphonium propyl bromide. Is such a reaction difficult to carry out for a novice chemist and is it possible to substitute propyl bromide with ethyl bromide to get MD-P2P ? And why does Shulgin get an alcohol when he reacts the grignard reagent with the aldehyde and rathead or rhodium a ketone (http://www.lycaeum.org/~rhodium/chemistry/ch3i-p2p.txt) ?? Osmium Member posted 06-22-98 07:20 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wittig reaction is not a reaction for the bees. Difficult, butyl-Li involved, etc. The Wittig reaction produces alkenes from carbonyl compounds, not propanones or butanones or other ketones. Rathead's procedure uses grignards to make the alkyl-cadmium intermediate. This reacts with aldehydes to the ketone. If you use the unmodified grignard, an alcohol will result. All times are CT (US) next newest topic | next oldest topic Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic Hop to: Select a Forum or ArchiveList of Forums:General DiscussionAcquisition DiscourseChemistry DiscourseMethods DiscourseNovel DiscourseCrystal MethSerious Chemistry ForumThe Hive CouchSerious Tryptamine DiscourseAdmin Chill-out TentList of Archives:Couch ArchivesClassics!Law and OrderThe litter box.misc. PEAs
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