10-12-04 12:40
No 535564
SCl2 and SOCl3 are generated in situ:
S + Cl2 -> SCl2
CH3-COOH + SCl2 + Cl2 -> CH3-COCl + SOCl3 + HCl
CH3-COOH + SOCl3 -> CH3-COCl + SO2 + HCl
V.Auger, A.Behal, Bl. (3) 2, 145 (1889)
and Houben-Weyl VIII, p.475
does this also work with chloroacetic acid?
(Hive Addict)
10-15-04 05:29
No 535954
do you mean to produce chloro-acetylchloride? by this method? should work via same route and method..... couldnt see why not.... (objections?)
But nice route for acetyl chloride, nice for acetic anhydride req's.
-AC
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(Moderator)
10-15-04 17:34
No 536021
does this also work with chloroacetic acid?
Yes it does, see Patent DE146796, Patent DE157816 and JACS 61 2142-50 (1939) & 62 925-29 (1940)
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(Moderator)
10-16-04 02:34
No 536021
does this also work with chloroacetic acid?
Yes it does, see Patent DE146796, Patent DE157816 and JACS 61 2142-50 (1939) & 62 925-29 (1940)
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(Newbee)
10-17-04 17:09
No 536190
I notice that there is an HCl generated for every Cl2 consumed. Could this mean that a mixture of S and TCCA would also work?
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(Hive Bee)
10-18-04 15:58
No 536355
perhaps a foolish question but.. where abouts can elemental sulfur be found over-the-counter?
- phenethylman -
(Hive Bee)
10-18-04 16:16
No 536358
perhaps a foolish question but.. where abouts can elemental sulfur be found over-the-counter?
Try gardening stores. Where I live it is sold in 5kg bags. It is used as some kind of plant protection, so the bugs don't eat them.
(Hive Addict)
10-18-04 23:04
No 536533
sulphur is the easy part.... chlorine is easy but nasty... so if someone could comment on yei's thought about the replacement of chlorine with TCCA?
-AC
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(Hive Bee)
10-19-04 03:39
No 536562
Sulphur can also be found in many brewing shops as it's used in the wine making process. This sulphur is generally of a high quality too.
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(Hive Bee)
10-30-04 21:08
No 538864
the first bottle of sulphur swijb got was from the local pharm. i think its sold as a disinfectant, but im not sure of all its prescribed usages.
gardening suppliers also carry it. there are a few devices that vaporize sulphur to inhibit bug reproduction in green houses.
diacetylmorphomaniac
(Hive Bee)
10-31-04 01:45
No 538891
You can buy kilos of sulfur in the gardening store, but not the one for burning and disinfecting with SO2 as that usually comes on paper stripes. You should ask for sulfur for spraying vineyards (I can't remember which fungus it is used against). You might want to purify it though, as it is of very "technical" grade (>80% purity where I live).
Yei: Could this mean that a mixture of S and TCCA would also work?
No. I tried TCCA+S+AcOH time ago. There is a very exothermic reaction and a nasty yellow reaction mixture forms with cyanuric acid precipitate clogging everything. I guess the foul garlicky smell of that yellow stuff is S2Cl2 but as far as I know S2Cl2 does not react with AcOH. Maybe it would work if you use a mixture of AcOH and anhydrous sodium acetete which can react with S2Cl2.
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(Newbee)
11-05-04 20:05
No 539972
Pharmacies sell "flowers of sulfur", which is very pure. It's more expensive, of course, but how much AcCl does one need?
Nicodem, I guess you've tried everything
Once, I mixed TCCA and sulfur to make a smoke mixture. It ended up being a gunpowder....
So there's definitely a reaction....How does one control whether S2Cl2 or SCl2 is formed?
How does H2SO4 + Ca(OCl)2 sound as a convenient chlorine generator?
There should be some way to avoid the nasty gas, though.
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