praeseodymium (Hive Bee)
01-30-04 06:11
No 485499
      serotonin and psilocybin     

i was wondering if anyone has ever ventured to taste the non-dimethyl amine equivalent of psilocybin.
Serotonin is 5-OH tryptamine;
Psilocybin is 4-phosphoryloxy- dimethyl tryptamine, or 4-OH-DMT when hydrolysed;
Has anyone been lucky enough to come across 4-OH tryptamine?

e( i*pi)+1=0
 
 
 
 
    gnrm23
(Newbee)
01-30-04 08:04
No 485518
      minor alkaloids in shrooms?     

like the OH (that is, dephosphorylated) version of nor-baeocystin ?

don't you folks ever sleep?
 
 
 
 
    praeseodymium
01-30-04 08:27
      nor-baeocystin
(Rated as: misinforming)
    
 
 
 
    Nicodem
(Hive Bee)
01-31-04 02:05
No 485664
      nor-baeocystin is...     

nor-baeocystin is 4-phosphoryloxy-DMT, which gives 4-OH-DMT when hydrolysed. (Baeocystin is the ethyl-methyl counterpart).

Sorry but that is just all wrong! Baeocystin is nor-psylocibin meaning it has one N-methyl group less than psylocibin. Therefore, nor-baeocystin has even one N-methyl less and is 4-phosphoryloxy-triptamine.
4-phosphoryloxy-DMT = psylocibin (is not nor-baeocystin)
4-OH-DMT = psilocin

“The real drug-problem is that we need more and better drugs.” – J. Ott
 
 
 
 
    praeseodymium
(Hive Bee)
01-31-04 13:02
No 485726
      Bad data     

OOPS. Now I've done it.
nor-baeocystin is 4-phosphoryloxy-DMT, which gives 4-OH-DMT when hydrolysed. (Baeocystin is the ethyl-methyl counterpart)

Yep, that's wrong (duh) Bad data. (comtemplates eating hat)

MMfff. Sorry about that. Thankyou for your clarification.

e( i*pi)+1=0