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DrugPhreak
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Suspect Calamus Oil
Sun Apr 10, 2005 8:33 am |
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SWIDP has some Indian calamus essential oil that smells just like many websites said it should, but it's very clear... almost as clear as water and is somewhat viscous. The seller says it's 100% unadulterated oil, but most of the essential oil websites state that its appearance is anywhere from pale yellow to dark brown. SWIDP has never seen asarone before, but they assume this is probably the way it looks. Of course it's not that though, but could a very high b-asarone content (>90%) make it look this way? Maybe it's put through some purification process. Any bees every get Indian calamus oil like this before? If so, did it work out well in your dreams? SWIDP plans to do a freezing and KMnO4 test soon, but they have a bad feeling about this. Maybe the asarone has been removed. |
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Re: Suspect Calamus Oil
Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:17 pm |
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Indian Calamus Oil is indeed normally brown in color
Your oil must either have been through some rectification/decoloration process or it is not the right product.
Try distilling it and see what fractions come over. You will know within 45 minutes whether what you have is what you want.
You could try freezing it, but this may or may not result in crystallization as you will probably have a mixture of cis- and trans- isomers.
If you do a standard isomerisation process with KOH (although in this case you are starting with a propenyl benzene), you will most likely convert the cis- product to the trans- . The trans- product will be more likely to crystallize on freezing. This last suggestion (the isomerisation) is only speculation (albeit pretty likely) however, as I have no reliable, direct information to suggest this has ever been done. |
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DrugPhreak
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IndoleAmine
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:13 am |
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Try distilling it and see what fractions come over. You will know within 45 minutes whether what you have is what you want.
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Exactly. Best method of determining essential oil contents ever. |
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DrugPhreak
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Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:43 am |
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Here's something interesting I found today...
ß-asarone (cis-isomer of 2,4,5-trimethoxy-1-propenylbenzene) is a constituent of oil of calamus, a flavouring agent derived from the dried rhizome of Acorus calamus Linn. The ß-asarone content of calamus oils varies with source of the plant. Indian Acorus calamus from the Jammu area is tetraploid and yields an oil containing approximately 75% ß-asarone; Acorus calamus from Kashmir is hexaploid and yields an oil containing approximately 5% ß-asarone (Vashist & Handa, 1964).
So some Indian oils are not even worth messing with and it's extremely hard to tell what Indian oil you have purchased prior to fractional distillation under an extraordinarily high vacuum. |
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Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:54 pm |
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DrugPhreak wrote: |
So some Indian oils are not even worth messing with and it's extremely hard to tell what Indian oil you have purchased prior to fractional distillation under an extraordinarily high vacuum.
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That's why you should buy oil from someone who can tell you whether there is asarone in it or not. |
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