PolytheneSam
(Master Searcher) 04-20-02 20:48 No 299552 |
Electrochemical reductive amination | Bookmark | ||||||
This reference is from Soviet Electrochemistry Vol. 28, No. 4, (1992), page 476-484 mentioned here Post 289268 (PolytheneSam: "electroamination", Stimulants) . There's nothing in it on amination of P2P or MDP2P, but it seems like it should work with them. J. Org. Chem. USSR Vol 28, No. 3, (1992) is on electrochemical reductive amination of aldehydes and might be applicable to amination of indole-3-acetaldehyde with dimethylamine. I put this in html form since the xerox copy wasn't too good. http://www.geocities.com/apis_mellifica2 http://www.geocities.com/apis_mellifica2 http://www.geocities.com/apis_mellifica2 http://www.geocities.com/apis_mellifica2 http://www.geocities.com/apis_mellifica2 http://www.geocities.com/apis_mellifica2 http://www.geocities.com/apis_mellifica2 http://www.geocities.com/apis_mellifica2 http://www.geocities.com/apis_mellifica2 http://www.geocities.com/dritte123/PSPF. The hardest thing to explain is the obvious |
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Rhodium (Chief Bee) 04-20-02 22:50 No 299579 |
Nice! | Bookmark | ||||||
Great! I'm sure you have nothing against me merging the files to one document and post it on my page with credits to you? |
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PolytheneSam (Master Searcher) 04-20-02 23:10 No 299587 |
electrochemistry | Bookmark | ||||||
I still need to add the references listed on page 484. I could just upload a tiff file version. The other pictures could be better quality, too. http://www.geocities.com/dritte123/PSPF. The hardest thing to explain is the obvious |
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PolytheneSam (Master Searcher) 04-20-02 23:51 No 299598 |
references | Bookmark | ||||||
Here's the references. http://www.geocities.com/apis_mellifica2 http://www.geocities.com/dritte123/PSPF. The hardest thing to explain is the obvious |
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Scooby_Doo (Hive Bee) 04-23-02 06:38 No 300351 |
Nice x2 | Bookmark | ||||||
Yeah nice work Sam, that is a kickass ref. The yields may not be as high as other methods but those conditions have got scale up written all over them. |
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PolytheneSam (Master Searcher) 04-28-02 23:33 No 302695 |
related article | Bookmark | ||||||
Here's something related to this. ../rhodium /electro http://www.geocities.com/dritte123/PSPF. The hardest thing to explain is the obvious |
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Scooby_Doo (Hive Bee) 04-29-02 06:47 No 302864 |
scale up | Bookmark | ||||||
Yes its all good, but yours gives some boundaries to work in and maybe a little hint on what to expect on scale up. Talking of scale up, one of the major hurdles will be power, I figure to get results such as Labtop's Bees are going to need lots of Amps probably around the 100-200 amps range for a decent batch. Scooby has done some asking around, options include batteries, DC generators or bridged rectifiers. Batteries sound good for smaller cheap research runs maybe 3 or 4 truck batteries might give you 20 or so amps for a few hours. DC Generators might be good for the outdoor Bees who have limited power supply anyway. Not so good in the apartment, plus getting those 5000 lt tanks up the stairs or elevator might be a little hard!?! 3 phase bridged rectifiers for the industrial Bee up to several thousand amps expensive but if you need this sort of ampage I guess price wouldn't really be a concern. Although ripple might cause some problems. "Scooby you crazy nutbar what kinda cell are you going to run that current through!" Plate and frame type would be the most successful. Imagine a stack of sandwiches with rods running vertically through them to squeeze them together. With your electrode plates placed: anode gap membrane gap cathode gap membrane gap anode etc then pipes connecting the anode gaps run the anolyte and the pipes connecting the cathode gaps running the catholyte. Both the electrolytes will need to run though heat exchanges to cool them working at those types of currents. The good thing is that the whole shebang can be made out of plastic as long as the heat build-up is minimized i.e. the use of large busbars, low electrolyte resistance and good cooling. |
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PolytheneSam (Master Searcher) 05-10-02 01:59 No 306860 |
patents | Bookmark | ||||||
Some interesting patents worth looking at are Patent US3361653 details, electrode, separator materials, etc., production of benzene from chlorobenzene (will it work for paradichlorobenzene?) Patent US3445354 detailed, explains overpotential Patent US5266731 amines from nitriles, cobalt oxide cathode Patent US5919349 electrochemical reduction of organic compounds http://www.geocities.com/dritte123/PSPF. The hardest thing to explain is the obvious |
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PolytheneSam (Master Searcher) 06-03-02 01:45 No 316952 |
Here's a lot of electrochemical stuff from ... | Bookmark | ||||||
Here's a lot of electrochemical stuff from Chem_Guy/jim. Post 222019 (jim: "Birch references from jim", Stimulants) http://www.geocities.com/dritte123/PSPF. The hardest thing to explain is the obvious |
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PolytheneSam (Master Searcher) 06-03-02 04:24 No 317018 |
Condition/preparation of the lead cathode seems ... | Bookmark | ||||||
Condition/preparation of the lead cathode seems to be important so I wrote this. Here's some tips on using lead (and some other materials) as cathodes. I saw a post before on making a circular cathode (lead?) which surrounds the anode and separator so that you have equal distances between the anode and cathode so that you have more or less constant current density on the cathode. The only one I found was Post 38186 (Malcolm: "Electrocatalytic reduction, too good to be true?", Stimulants) . I'll just copy relevant parts from xerox copies I have:
http://www.geocities.com/dritte123/PSPF. The hardest thing to explain is the obvious |
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PolytheneSam (Master Searcher) 06-08-02 20:43 No 318910 |
references | Bookmark | ||||||
Here's the references which doesn't seem to work anymore in Post 299598 (PolytheneSam: "references", Novel Discourse) . jpeg images seem to get really distorted by geocities. http://www.geocities.com/apis_mellifica2 http://www.geocities.com/dritte123/PSPF. The hardest thing to explain is the obvious |
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PolytheneSam (Master Searcher) 06-09-02 04:09 No 319017 |
indigo | Bookmark | ||||||
Here's a good article on the electrochemical reduction of indigo. http://www.tech.chem.ethz.ch/roessler/ch A good thing to study is: http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/plambeck/che http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/plambeck/che http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/plambeck/che etc. A salt bridge is explained here. http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/plambeck/che http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/plambeck/che (link to next page is at the bottom of each page) http://www.geocities.com/dritte123/PSPF. The hardest thing to explain is the obvious |
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