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Guest

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Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:35 pm
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Major Announcement : online labware and essential oils and chemicals


Synthetikal Online Pharmacy- Now online

http://pharmacy.synthetikal.com/
Yes, we now have own pharmaceutical store, !


I would like to announce that over the next few months, keeping in line with our commitments, that we are going to introduce more glassware, and chemicals online, available through a link section,

We will search the globe for the best suppliers of essential oils, and laboratory chemicals, along with the best range of glassware that we can find, and make these business's available in a link section

We will have a custom glassblower, who will have his own range of handblown apparatus at very competitive prices,

For example for a complete Vacuum Distillation Apparatus, 500ml rb, quickfit Head, Condensor, vacuum reciever, 500ml recieving flask, Vigreux Fractionator, therm. adapt. ALL custom made ~340 US

We understand that alot of our members are spread all over the world,
and we have put all of this into consideration, and will be offering delivery anywhere in the world,

No easy feat, but definately an essential service,
Whether or not the suppliers are run by us , or just recommeded,
we will make sure that quality and price are optimised.

You will be able to place orders via their catalogue engine, from where your order will be filled and delivered to where ever you are located,

We feel that not only our members here, but other hobbiest all over the world will find this an invaluable service.

We will reward all members here with discounts, and we hope alot of you will play a part in this future effort of ours.

We will have current details on the progression of the project, and let you know what suppliers w have located.


Syn Laughing


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Darkblade48

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Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:42 am
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Sounds like a great idea, but what about this issue of annoyminity? Would we have to set up a P.O. box or something to that effect?
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Guest

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Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:10 am
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I cannot comment on that, but for the hobbiest with legitimate needs,
They will just be able to order, from a link from us,

po box's, are a good secure way of recieving mail, when you cannot recieve it at your house,

syn
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Sandmeyer

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Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:15 am
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Is it reallya good idea to try to make some sort of buisness using a drug-chemistry forum as s platform? I meen, we all know how it ended up for Strike when he tried to preform this stunt. Esp in USA, if money-making can be even remotley connected to psycoactive drugs you beg for trouble. But, let's wait and see...
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Guest

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Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:30 am
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But we are not all about psychoactive drugs,

It definately will not be connected to this site,
It is just by popular demand that members have a thing for the psycoactives,

We will just have to see how it rolls out,
It is not so much for money making as a service for our members, and a convenience,

I am as you know a undergraduate in chemistry, If the government wants to get heavy handed, that doesn;t mean that their actions are right,

I personally act withihn the law, i have no desire to incriminate my self,
But if want to buy chemicals, or sell them, then i can not see a problem.

It has been a desire of mine for a long time to be involved in the chemical industry, and what a better way to start then selling or recommeding chem's

As i know how hard it can be,

YOU will not be able to buy chemicals from this site, but there will be a link, from here to their,
It is perfectly legal,
And if it is not, then i am prepared to fight for this,


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Guest

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Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:46 am
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Agreed , that connected to this forum, the king's men will WANT blood, as they did with strike,

But in the same breath, this forum and it decision to open it is as vulnerable as the supplier idea. Yet we seriously chose choice, over oppression,
I'm no Judge, but do you think i deserve to sit in the corner(detention) for this forum?

We will do everything we can to remain within the law,

As it would be unwise to have the chemicals sold here, due to its percieved liability of collusion & conspiricy

But from our odd and earnest point of view,
We don't condone anything that contravene's the law,
and we activly promtote this,

W have to do this carefully, and respect the law,
As we want nothing to do with the actual manufacture off illicit substances,
But we do believe in hobbiest experimentation,
And theory, just as any good Organic Chem book deserves.
And shouldn't our members have the benefit of the doubt?

The site will have to be completely seperate from this site,

Except that we would recommend this service,

We currently have 100's of affiliates enjoying sales from this site, selling chemicals and labware,
It is our purpose to bring validity, and recognition to the field of hobbiest chemistry,

Do you remember artcraft cehmicals?

We will operate in much the same way, offering many businees's for our members to chose from to get their supplies

I do see your point, but at the same time, we feel that we are doing nothing wrong, and unlawfull, as all of our members would never be involved in such activities

If we find that we are infact pushing s--t up hill, we will have to reconsider, accordingly

sy
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jackoozzi
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Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:15 am
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You cant send chemicals through the post they dont allow it
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Guest

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Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:38 pm
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We have just opened our online pharmacy,

http://pharmacy.synthetikal.com/

All our members get a 10% discount, but you must quote this code:SYNTHMEMBER to get it,

We hope our members will enjoy this facility, as we hope to bring more essential services together for convenience,

Our next mission will be Glass, general chemicals and essential oils

syn
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IndoleAmine
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Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:39 pm
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Jackoozi's right on the issue of selling chems via standard mail...

From what I know, you need a special permission to be able to sell chemicals - don't know about pharmaceuticals, but it might apply too here.

As long as we know that we're doing nothing illegal (or nothing explicitly forbidden for that matter), everything should be fine. But selling chemicals can very easily lead to trouble - as soon as you sell other things than NaCl, Na2SO4 and iron powder (or similar simple items), you need a license, have to prove that you store the chem.s appropriately, are know with its dangers, able to teach customers about it, etc.etc.

There are far too much regulations involved in this business to make it worthwile. If you want to sell chems legally, you will have no time for doing anything else, its a full-time job! (mucho paperwork too, and always under the eyes of big brother.

Nothing bees should be affiliated with IMO, since big brother will far more likely try to find errors when such a suspicious source sells chemicals, than would be the case with regular chem. suppliers without clandestine background at all.


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icecool
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Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:01 am
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Indole is true on one point.
You cannot just sell chemicals it is illegal.
You need a lot of permits and licenses.
And you can send chemicals via the post.
SWIM knows a FOAF and he used to send even 4 liters of gamma-butyrolactone just via the normal post in a package.
And also kg's of white powder (it was KNO3 but could have also been ---- or something like that).
If your package doesn't look suspicious "they" will not check it.
But SWIM knows people who actually have gotten into trouble selling chemicals...
And are now in jail.
What happened to strike BTW?
And also make sure that trusted and good sources won't go to fuck by k3wls "raiding" the source and so the source gets suspicious and stops selling the particulair product.

EDIT: I like the little bee in the left of the picture of the online pharmacy Razz
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Guest

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Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:42 am
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yes, agreed,

We don't want to sell chemicals,
we don't want to bring anybad karma to our site,

It will just be affiliates adds, like we have had since the start,

we don't want to cause any problems,

Hope everyone like's the our phamacy,
We do wan to lift out status,
As we all know, nothing here is every actually done in the reall world,
It is just all theoretical Wink

Sorry for the excitement, we are not perfect!
Thanks for everyones input
We will follow only what we all want
Our motivation for putting this announcement was, to motivate ourselves, to actualy complete the online store faster,

But, members have spokem, and we have listen!
syn Wink
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nubee
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Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:52 am
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ebay'ers sell PdCL2 there all the time, and must be coping no grief over that,as been doing it for ages, as well as other chems.

the main thing with post and couriers is if it's a hazardous substance, such as solvent, strong oxidiser, or ... then you need to pay more and need permits

PO box's are secure but not anonymous, as you need an ID to open one.

but yeah syn, there's no prob with refering.

as for the pharm comp, where's the no-presc ergo based migraine control Confused

SWIM thinks making your own reagent and such is 733t
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IndoleAmine
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:28 am
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ebay is from private to private, our site would be called commercial if it would sell chems.

To sell chemicals commercially, you need a license.

Unless there's absolutely no dangerous compound involved (who needs NaCl? I'm bold enough that I dare to sell this stuff officially in multiple kg quantities; but no other compounds than that, ok maybe 25% vinegar too - but not anything else.... Laughing ).

I think we all are able to aquire NaCl and vinegar otc, so this is probably not needed - and since even H2SO4 can cause trouble if shipped to certain countries, I think we should leave selling chems to the chem traders/sellers and stick with what we can do best: creating and storing knowledge in the field of chemistry....

(just my 2 cents)


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thenewrunne
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:21 am
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Just be smart.

There are ways to do what you want to do WITHOUT causing yourself trouble.

Glassware - easy.
Equipment - easy.
A massive array of semi-to-non-hazardous chemicals - hard, but doable.

Keep the company offshore, keep the directors separate from who is admining here. Keep your distance from the companies - all of them.

Or run affiliates. Or - there are 101 different ways of doing what you want to do. But none of those 101 ways are to tell us exactly WHO is doing this, or WHERE it all is from.

They don't need to CONVICT you, just FUCK WITH YOUR LIFE.

The goal is not to stay out of jail, the goal is to not give them a CHANCE at getting you.

You are right in what you say - there is nothing illegal with what you propose - but that will not stop them from destroying you, and your family, and your friends. They don't need proof.

Bee careful.
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DjTime
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Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:22 am
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Finding a place like that would be awesome. It would be cool if there were someone out there in this world or some people that would hook up members. I always wondered how many of those "legitamate" Oil, and Chemical owners have like shit getting kicked out the back door for a price?

Anyways It's cool what your trying to do and I hope it works out. I just see a big problem with the man linking all this shit up too easily. I mean with all that new technology that comes out how muc good shit came out already we dont hear about?

But Im sure you got it all figured out. I wish the best of luck and everything. Peace OUt......
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